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security, medicare entry age raised with sizable entitlement benefits. that's literary where they are. can they get something big or go off the cliff? which a lot of democrats think now is not the worst thing in the world. gambling with the financial markets but hurting the gop and don't have to deal with what democrat told me is this constant utter nonsense that happens every time we have a budget negotiation. >> luke keeps referencing the polling, a "washington post"/pew poll that says 53% of the country will blame congressional republicans if be go over the cliff, 27% blaming the president. he is comfortable with those numbers which is why the swagger is the only word for it today at the business roundtable. >> absolutely. remember this is the second or third poll we've seen, so the republicans have had time to make their case and the public is not buying it. if you're the president, your hand is strengthened. there are polls that show there's a national journal poll people want this balanced approach. you hear the president talk about the balanced approach. yes, it's a great thing they
that the other major party wanted to take a hatchette to medicare. that -- that's what they wanted to do. now the election is over. and we're getting together to do the deal, and it's like, so do you want to tell them we're going to cut medicare? no, you tell them we're going to cut medicare. this is its thing -- nobody wants to cut medicare and everybody on capitol hill is trying to figure out who is going to break it to the american people. >> and we have a poll coming out today just how much the american people don't want them to be doing that stuff. the one thing the american people are certain about is, yes, let those top tax brackets go up. >> exactly. and republicans think this, too. maybe it's not a majority but something in the 40s. those rates are going up. and i think republicans understand it. i think a lot of what you're hearing, including from john boehner, is this posturing you have to do to make sure you can still raise money, obviously, as we were just saying. but at the same time, you've got to believe that he understands deep down, those rates are going up one way or anothe
testing for medicare. >> eric: the problem is everything that -- [ overtalk ] >> eric: everything on the table won't solve the debt problem. >> andrea: that is right. >> eric: won't stop it. >> bob: what will it? >> eric: fiscal cliff will. >> andrea: the plan that the democrats put forward is to give tax breaks to business owners. these are gimmicky schemes. cola adjustment. to it is not going to do anything. it's a p.r. stunt to go around the country to say look at what we put forward. >> eric: $345 billion -- >> andrea: for cancer. >> bob: that is a tylenol? man, getting expensive. >> greg: the only way to the problem is for americans to become educated on how to cut spending. how you eliminate the tax deductions and expand the tax base so that you can increase the revenue without punishing segment of society. that doesn't it in the simp sob cartoon. they couldn't articulate that in a comical way. we are run by liberals who never spent a dollar they couldn't spend twice. obama could be a great foreign policy president if he pretended the enemies are rich americans. >> bob: you
benefits messed with, we don't want to see the medicare eligibility age raised, we don't want to see these entitlements cut with medicare cuts. when we hear that, is that basically not getting in the ears of what john boehner's caucus has in front of them right now? they're just not paying attention to those facts on the table? >> you're exactly right. it's not reality. the simple math doesn't add up. i use the analogy, it's like going tos an fast food chain and, there's calories involved in that, you might gain a little bit of weight. >> not if nobody sees you eat it. >> at the end of the day you know what you ate and you're going to gain the weight. the fact of the matter is it's simple arithmetic here. when you take a look at entitlement reform that, is the real driver here to bring down our deficit and to bring fiscal sanity back to washington, d.c. as it relates to medicare, as it relates to social security. that's the real conversation that we as the american people need to have around our kitchen tables. >> an interesting note to point out amid this debt crisis going on, new j
security and medicare. >> eric: leave it there. coming up -- >> bob: we don't have to explain this stuff. >> eric: two lotto winners but what about the celebrities get in trouble. lindsay lohan is in handcuffs again. dajustin bieber is boozing it up. halle berry can't keep it together. we'll have that when we come back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> kimberly: sad day on "the five." we have didn't win the lotto. i don't know why. the up side is we all showed up for work today. two winning tickets were sold in arizona and missouri. nobody claimed the prizes yet but when they do, it could be a cash pay-out of $385 million. before taxes. that is almost $200 million apiece. that is the kind of math i like. big winnings. so not so bad. first bit of advice i have is sign the ticket. okay. photograph it. sign it. make sure you have witnesses. bad things can happen. right, dana? >> dana: what could happen? >> kimberly: someone else could take it and sign it. have the winning ticket an sign it and dana perino. people think it's yours. >> dana: that is devious. >> bob: somebody has their phone on here, becaus
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. they might want to raise the cap on payments toward medicare when you're working years. something that would make the medicare prom more secure financially which would appeal to the progressives and people with big city and working class constituencies. >> what about the age for when you qualify for social security? >> well, i wouldn't touch that. that's too high. you don't do that over christmas rush. you know, you do that over a long period of time and you make a very serious concession to people who have really heavy lifting jobs. it's different if you're working in a law firm and they keep you around for a few more years rather than you're driving a semi ray cross the country on route 70 or 80 all night long. you may not want a guy 730 years o -- 70 years old or a woman driving that truck. i really think you have to find something not -- i think the word hardship, not handicap, whether it be a hardship type role that are recognized as such where you get to retire sooner. i think we can deal with that over time but it takes more finesse. >> george will in his column today writes this, wit
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billion in medicare and other entitlement savings, as well as a permanent increase in the debt limit among other things. so far, the rhetoric has not softened. treasury secretary tim geithner arriving on capitol hill for high level talks, most notably with house speaker john boehner. >> good morning, everyone. >> how did it go? just listen. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious. about real spending cuts. >> a much gloomier assessment from the initial prethanksgiving huddle at the white house. boehner described his meeting with geithner as frank and direct, the same way he described his phone call with the president the night before. and for the past two weeks there has been no substantive progress. >> most public statements have been optimistic, confident, hopeful. we're all sensing a very different tone from you right now. are you walking away from talks? have things completely broken down? >> no, no, no, no. stop. i'm disappointed in where we are, but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. i'm here seriously
and republicans argue massive spending programs like medicare and social security must be dealt with in any kind of deal if you want to bring count deficit today. south carolina senator republican lindsey graham on that right now. >> social security and medicare are $50 trillion under funded combined. we need to adjust the age of retirement slowly but surely for people independent 55. because we are all living longer, you and i need to pay a little more because we can afford it. bill: senator graham saying he want more than anything else to get the country out of debt. and do it in a permanent way. martha: what would it mean with lawmakers fail to strike a deal. according to the tax policy center, 90% of american would see their taxes go up in 2013. and families making between $40,000 and $65,000 a year would have to pay an extra $2,000 to the u.s. government. that's not going to go down well. bill: we are four week away from going over that cliff as of today. what now, you wonder? kevin mccarthy out of california, he's coming up 60 minutes from now. martha: back to this tragic story we talked a
. additional spending on medicare to pay doctors, protecting middle income americans from a tax hike. $50 billion in stimulus. and in return $400 billion in medicare and other savings next year and an agreed mechanism for allowing a vote on a debt ceiling increase republicans are not at all pleased with this, publicly crying foul. the white house has said that they have signed into law $1 trillion into tax cuts next year and will rg to compromise on more. bottom line, most sides seem more dug in than they did before, erin. >> certainly a day that was pretty grim on that front. thanks very much and that 1.6 trillion, everyone, surprising republicans and a crucial number especially when contrasted with the 4 billion this entitlement cuts. i want to tell you the republican response as jessica indicated. they didn't want anything to do with geithner's plan. yesterday, john boehner moved the markets higher. it was joyful talk about a possible deal, but today, it was like a break-up over tax. he went from love to disgust. here he is right after tim geithner put that deal on the table. >> no pro
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conservatives in the party know something about some big reforms on medicare and medica medicare, social security is, any of the retirement or tax issues, but i'll tell you this. i think that all these stories aren't necessarily going lead us to the truth. i personally have a very size way i'm approaching this. the president is supposed to leave for a 21-day vacation in hawaii on december 17th. where he is on december 18th will tell me, and i think the markets will pay attention. i find it hard to believe, and i agree with bill and many, who are very not amused by the house taking their long weekend. i'm sure that the president would have no intentions of leaving until these issues are resolved. i think the market is being kind, but i think it's a timing issue. >> yeah, i think that's a good point. somebody mentioned the other day that the president is planning a trip to hawaii on december 17th. i said, what? they said, no, no, no, not unless the deal is done. we'll see about that. meanwhile, the house goes away for a lock weekend. all right, rob. what do you think? you think we're going
savings in medicare. so, this is stalemate right now. now, these things always look horrible before they come together. more and more voices say, this is going to go over the fiscal cliff at least for a few days in january. >> and democrats seem to be thinking that, if we go over the fiscal cliff, voters will likely blame the republicans for that. do you think that's true? or are democrats overplaying their hands? >> all of the polls show that right now. no one know was the consequences will really be if we go over that fiscal cliff. we know that the tax hikes go up. some estimates -- ben bernanke, the fed chairman, fears that it will throw the country into a recession. that would hurt the whole country, of course president obama as well. they have to be careful here as well. but democrats and the president clearly believe that they have the leverage to force an increase in these tax rates on the upper income americans before they agree to a deal. >> we'll all be watching the stock market as well. if that indeed happen. >>> the president is also concentrating on recasting his new ca
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, means testing on taxes? medicare for more affluent recipients, excluding my wife? >> let me just say that we would support a balanced approach, and it is important to point out, as senator warner did, that we have done over $1 trillion in cuts in the next 10 years which the president is committed to keeping. with respect to medicare, we do have a very different approach to dealing with medicare. there is no doubt we have to bring down medicare health-care cost growth. the difference is that we believe we should expand on the kind of reforms that we made in the affordable care act, where we achieved billion about $716 billion in savings, not simply by across the board provider cuts, but by changing the incentive structure, the way we pay providers so we focus on the value of care, not the volume of care. i think it is ironic that we have gone in the last four weeks from many of our republican colleagues criticizing the president for having done too much in savings on medicare, $716 billion -- their presidential candidate proposed putting that money back in, in other words adding $716
in medicare and other entitlement savings but exactly what those would be are to be determined in negotiations next year. republicans are saying this is overreach, too much. they are rejecting it. the white house says hey, we'll compromise. come back to us with an offer. wolf? >> jessica, as you say, the republicans are already rejecting this outright, so was the administration surprised, shall we say, by that rejection? >> reporter: well, their public response, yes, is surprise and they're accusing the republicans of avoiding a deal to protect the wealthy but the truth is, this is a negotiating dance. the bottom line is they have been going back and forth for a few weeks and democrats say they asked the gop to be specific about what revenue number they would be okay with. democrats say well, the republicans weren't forthcoming so democrats said if you're not going to show yours, we'll show you ours first. we'll make an offer and we'll come in high, and now the republicans aren't happy with it, but some republicans in fact are telling me that conversations have moved backwards in the last 24 h
. no wonder the industry is facing potential cut in medicare, which amounts to about $11 billion. as government debates where to cut, the fact is, half of health care spending in general is done through government programs like medicare. it is the austerity cross hairs. the ceo of the new york presbyterian hospital is with us. give me your concerns or feelings as we approach this fiscal cliff. do you think we'll get a deal done, or are you anticipating we go over the cliff? >> we're americans. we have to get a deal done. this is really important, and it's important for health care. at some point in time, we're going to have to come to grips with the fact there's got to be revenue. you have to have some rate increases, in my opinion. charitable deductions are a non-starter for us. that's a big issue. universities, hospitals, we depend on charity and charitable donations. >> let's stop right there because i want to take one part at a time. the charitable deductions, this is one of those deductions within the tax code that's being debated. that and as well the mortgage deduction. yo
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together has never worked so well. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. >>> as promised, we wanted to get you back to egypt. we have been reporting on the deadly clashes in cairo. thousands of supporters are pushing these an
] introducing... a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends december 7th. so call today or visit your local walgreens. >>> on election day, the american people made a statement. they want cooperation. they want a government that works. the message was resoundingly clear but speaker boehner didn't hear it. for the second time in as many years, he's stomping his feet, threatening to hold the economy hostage if he doesn't get what he wants in the tax fight. >> as i told the president a couple of of weeks ago, there are a lot of things i've wanted in my life but almost all of them have had a price tag attached to them. and if we're going to talk about the debt limit in this, be there's going to be some price tag associated with it. >> is he kidding? note to speaker boehn
specified. we're looking at entitlements such as medicare. and then the plan also includes $50 billion in stimulus spending. democrats see this really as sort of the opening salvo in these negotiations. early on in this process, both sides appear to show some level of optimism that this would get done. in the last few days and certainly yesterday it just seems like both sides are so far apart, it's not unusual for us to see this kind of posturing and other negotiations, tough negotiations over the last four years or so. you'll see things build up whether it appears that it's going to get done. then they fall apart. in the end it does happen. the hope is that that would happen here as well. both sides seemingly far apart still. >> neither side, dan, wants to say anything that would potentiallyg suggest they're giving up any leverage. republican aides say the white house author is completely unbalanced and unrealistic, citing the $1.6 trillion in tax hikes. yet the tax rates being proposed are less than they were during the clinton era. where do we go from here? >> reporter: where we go
that mean for medicare? break it down in terms of where these savings come from. >> i wish i could. what we don't have here is a lot of detail hanging off this christmas tree at this point. we're looking at a couple of bullet points being released now in terms of the scale of the deal. it gives us overall broad numbers. presumably negotiators would have to go in and fill in details of how they're get that kind of savings. there have been a lot of proposals on health of finding billions of dollars of savings by reducing overhead and other things like that. you've seen the unions come out and say they don't want to see any changes at all that would hurt payoffs to beneficiaries in terms of health care. that would be one of the sticking points between republicans and democrats. we would have to see more detail from boehner's office and how they plan to get to the number of $600 billion. >> broadly speaking, these numbers are similar to where they left it on the table last year during those failed negotiations for the grand bargain. these numbers are similar to the simpson/bowles reduction plan
. but they decidedly do not want to see the medicare eligibility age go up from 65 to 67. >> it bothers me when they say it's an entitlement, when we actually paid all these years when we were working. >> i think it's very difficult for people to reach a compromise, which is unfortunate, because the nation is what suffers. >> reporter: democrats are also reluctant when it comes to reining in entitlement programs, social welfare programs, diane, such as medicare. but president obama today said he expects there will be a framework for a deal in the next couple of weeks and he hopes there will be a deal by christmas. and market analysts said a 100-point bump in the dow today was because of those optimistic comments by the president and similar ones by speaker boehner. diane? >> all right, negotiations under way. thank you so much, jake. >>> and we learned today that two arch rivals are about to sit down for lunch tomorrow. the president has invited governor mitt romney to join him in the private dining room at the white house. in recent weeks, we've only had rare glimpses of governor romney -- pum
for medicare beneficiaries. >> schieffer: why did you choose to basically say "we're going to stop letting congress have the ability to raise the debt ceiling." >> we are not prepared to let the threat of default on america's credit, the savings of americans, the investments of americans be held00 to the political agenda of a group of people in congress over time. as you saw last august, that was very damaging to the american people. it's not the responsible way it govern. >> schieffer: are you betting eventually the republicans will cave on the taxes? >> there's no-- there's no path to an agreement that does not involve republicans acknowledging that rates have to go up for the wealthiest americans. >> schieffer: you're saying you can't do it just by eliminating deductions and other-- >> very good question. you know, we've taken a careful look at this, and we think we should limit deduction but if you look carefully at how to do this, there is no way to raise a meaningful amount of revenue, relative to the sights of our fiscal challenges, by just limiting deductions for wealthy americans.
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for the president to convince his progressives, maybe we ought to give a little. if i give here on medicare, i'm going to have to give again in a month and another month. it looks horrible. the other side he's saying, this is going to be fun. maybe he's playing to his right wing crowd saying if we don't get a big apple bite this time, we'll get another bite next month. who is he playing to when he says we're going to have more trouble down the road? >> you have to remember the cross currents facing boehner include not just the tea party crazies but the right wing donor class is very hard right on this ideological issue of never seeing they tax increases. and the republican, just the campaign committees, if you compare the republican congressional campaign committee with the dccca that raises for the democrats shts the republicans are more reliant for the big donors. republicans really do have to constantly cater to a very hard right wing donor class that wants to hear this message. they don't want to hear boehner capitulate. if you read a lot of the right wing sides, not the crazy once, they'r
to do $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings. >> that's true. and they've also said that they're willing to be flexible beyond that. they won't talk about the numbers with us and the press and public. we know they won't negotiate the public. i asked them, will you go beyond -- essentially, will you go beyond that? they said, yes, we're open to negotiating. the bottom line is they indicated that they are willing to do more than that. that they're willing to open up what they were talking about during the debt talks. it comes to changing eligibility ages for some of these entit entitlement programs, raising -- changing the caps -- indexing for inflation, et cetera. they'll do it. but they want to start talking numbers with republicans. so, yes, they're willing to do more cuts. but they want the republicans to agree on revenue first. and they're emphatic that republicans aren't willing to talk about the revenue and so they can't start the negotiations. and this all for this week, but these numbers they came out with this week were an effort to try to prod some sort of s
at revamping medicare, medicaid, and social security. >> i'm serious about revenue. you can limit deductions to $40,000 or $50,000 a person, which takes care of the middle class. upper-middle income americans will lose their deductions, but i'll only do that if we do entitlement reform, and the president's plan is quite frankly a joke. >> as the country inches closer to the fiscal cliff, is there a way to avoid falling over it? joining me live from los angeles, democratic congresswoman maxine waters. congresswoman, always a pleasure to see you. >> hello, how are you? >> tim geithner saying today the administration would deal with social security at a later date. are democrats serious about entitlement reform? >> no, democrats are not furious, except we understand and will insist that social security and medicare not be on the table at all. the president has presented a credible proposal on both taxes and spending, and he did offer up $400 billion in discretionary spending cuts. so, in addition to the $1.6 trillion that we're insisting on in eliminating or allowing the tax cuts for the riches
political adviser indicated that medicare and medicaid are the main drivers of our deficit. i know we have seen this morning also several editorial writers indicate the same, that it is important that we put these drivers of the deficit on the table and include them as part of any agreement to avoid the fiscal cliff. as the speaker said, we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something we did not do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiation. we still believe that it is most important for us to address the economic situation in this country where so many people are out of work. that is why we take the position and believe strongly that increase in marginal rates i, income-tax rates, is not the way to produce growth and put people back to work. but we have not seen any good faith effort on the part of its administration to talk about the real problem that we're trying to fix. i am told mr. bowles, some of us will meet with him later today, said earlier this morning there has been no serious discussion by the white house on entitlements, on medicare and medicaid. th
that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rather for the wealthy expired and republicans have been pushing back on that, say they go believe that will be harmful for the economic recovery because wealthy americans are the ones who are creating the jobs and helping to turn this economy around. that remains the big sticking point. those bush era tax cuts, whi
the country's tax code and consider ways to keep the costs in social security and medicare under control. white males of the republican party will be arguing to reduce benefits while women and minority will make a case for keeping the safety net where it is. the irony is men and women have the same political power, historically. all live longer than men. in the old folks home there's one guy there -- >> very popular guy. >> his ears are enormous. all these women are there because they tend to live longer and they have an interest in social security and medicare more than men do. >> and we're also poorer. at the middle of our lives and end of our lives, we're poorer, so we rely on safety net programs and we need them. women have been much more -- going back to the reagan election of 1980 that's when you saw the gender gap because the social safety net was being threatened and women do vote. it's not only or mainly abortion, choice or contraception. it's economic issues. those come in to play, too. so i think this is -- we have today, another data point, where stuart stevens in washington
i'm willing to do stuff on entitlements. there's talk about raising medicare age, the social security cost of living adjustment, but boehner is just stuck in this corner on rates. >> hey, mike barnicle, we're talking about the president right now because a lot of us believe, you know, that's where the buck stops, and that's where you get the negotiations going. we don't want to overlook, though, a new "washington post"/pew research poll that shows americans are blaming the problems of these negotiations on republicans. 53% are blaming congressional republicans. 27% are blaming barack obama. 12% are blaming both equally republicans are shouldering the blame by a 2-1 margin. and of those polled, 49% don't expect a deal to be reached by a deadline compared to 40% who do. here we have, again, a serious problem with republican branding. and branding comes from reality. people -- their natural instinct is to blame the republican party when standoffs like this occur. >> i'm surprised the number of 53% is that low. i would think it would be much higher than that. people get their new
's what you'd get from entitlement reform. from reforming medicare, and doing some cuts there under this plan. but compare it to the white house plan, very different than what's on the table there. $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that is two times the amount in the boehner plan, and also, of course, includes increasing those income tax rates for the wealthy. $400 billion to medicare and other entitlements, that's $ 00 billion less than in the speaker's counteroffer and this would force congress to give up its debt limit vote which is a nonstarter for house republicans. the white house saying that boehner counteroffer is nothing new, that it lacks specifics. but i will tell you, zoraida, that one house democratic aid telling cnn that it passed the laugh test. so certainly i guess it could have been worse in some estimations by democrats. >> i suspect some people were laughing. brianna keilar live at the white house for us, thank you. in the next half hour, we'll talk about the prospect for a fiscal cliff deal with california's democratic congressman xavier becerra. >>> the rain and flood
in medicare reforms and 600 billion in spending cuts. because it doesn't contain tax hikes for the wealthiest americans or specifics about which loopholes will be eliminated, the president immediately rejected the republican proposal. want to know how far apart democrats and republicans are? listen to this. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's clear to me they made a political calculation. if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess what they are. >> they need to be more specific. >> some specificity from them. >> he can't be serious. >> haven't even begun to be serious. >> we need to get serious. >> i don't think they're serious. >> i would say we're nowhere. period. we're nowhere. >> hard to disagree with that. we're nowhere. period. >> the cliff is grim, and no one is making new year's eve plans because everyone thinks this will be a real clinch
rates they want, the medicare cuts they want, the trillion dollars in spending cuts president obama agreed to, hundreds of billions in additional cuts, ending the payroll tax break, ending jobless benefits and they get the opportunity to create a new debt ceiling crisis in a few months. that's on the republican side, what the republicans get in their proposal. what do the democrats get in their proposal? they get this. a promise to end undefined tax deductions and loopholes of some kind at some point maybe next year e. ta da! a fair and balanced middle ground. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> yes. balance. here's the amazing part, though. after congressional republicans released their plan yesterday, which gives them everything they want and promises democrats that they might get something undefined that they might want maybe some time in the future. we'll talk about it later. after they put forth that sweet deal, this was the reaction from the beltway's conservative class. this is genius. sad ly, this plan leaves conservatives wanting.
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-- the spending cuts on medicare. why don't we allow them to negotiate medicare and to reduce the cost of medicine? that should save you a lot of money yearly. i agree totally about the republicans and democrats spending money stupidly just before the election. both sides voted to refurbish something like 170 army tanks that the army said they'd do not need. they went and voted to repair those tanks. why are we wasting our money? democrats want to cut taxes. host: armstrong williams? guest: we haven't gotten to affordable care and medicare and medicaid. if affordable care was administered correctly and if he did not have the special interest groups and if tort reform was not included, package you move forward in making health care work for anyone if you do not bring tort reform to the table? the medical malpractice lawsuits are out of control where doctors are paranoid and have to think twice before going through these procedures. it becomes a nightmare for doctors. there are too many hands in the pot. the mentality in washington is that everybody has to get paid so they can be compensated. when a
at the army of aarp representatives that ensure that programs like medicare and social security, programs that take up something like 50% of our federal budget will remain intact and won't be subjected to the necessary reform to last for young people to ever reach them. the problem is that young people don't think life goes on after the age of 30. if you're on twitter and facebook, that's a long way away. why are you worried about entitlements? >> the funny thing is that president obama is using social media to do the exact same thing. for example, he will visit a virginia middle class family today. they were part of his twitter verse. that's why he chose them. he must think that talking to average americans might force republicans to change their minds about raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> well, if the most recent election is any indication, president obama is dead on right. he was -- he and his team were masters at social media in getting elected. and using social media to spread his message in nontraditional ways, ways that will be traditional in every election going forw
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